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Im writing this on the plane; I know Im going to feel like ass when I get off, but I probably shouldnt complain- as far as I can tell, Im next to the only empty seat on the entire plane.

Nuernberg was pretty much a blast, despite the agonies of travel and the cultural bits. Its weird, I dont think Ive ever traveled to a place where I didnt speak the language, didnt speak anything close to the language, and had no basically full-time guide/translator. I also had very little time to page through the phrasebook in the back of my guide. :/ Obviously, plenty of Germans speak English- one of the YaST guys was actually the first non-American Ive ever heard say oh, learning English is easy. But it was still sort of awkward for touristing even wandering into fairly touristy shops still felt really awkward for me, like I was being rude by making them listen to me. If I go back, I must take the time to learn at least basic phrases of greeting, ordering, etc. Unfortunately, my local travel book store had no Rick Steves for German. I (heart) Rick Steves, for the record.

Nurnberg is a neat little town- was one of the last old cities in Europe to have a complete city wall, before we leveled the entire downtown during WWII. Theyve rebuilt it all, and it is pretty cool (especially the castle) but it doesnt have quite the same feel that an authentic ancient wall/castle (like in Sevilla) has. Our hotel and the SuSE offices were on almost exactly opposite sides of the old city, so every morning and evening we were forced to walk through the old city. I think I actually have a grasp of it now- Im not exactly ready to be a Nurnberg tour guide or anything, but if you dropped me down anywhere in/around the old town I could probably get you to the center of town and some of the major tourist points. And definitely to the SuSE offices.

The beer is great- we went on the last night to the Landsbierparadis, which is basically a bar which imports small village brewery beer in honest-to-god wood kegs into the city. I dont recall exactly how many of the local beers I had- 4 or 6, maybe" They were all good, though as one of the SuSE guys pointed out, most were fairly simple- not complex. Just hearty and shockingly smooth. And they serve it all out of these great ceramic steins- very satisfying clinks after rousing toasts to World Domination and such. Dave and I ended up taking a set home. We also had a great evening at the local Irish bar on St. Pattys- great fries, good Krug, and wonderful basement-of-ancient-building pub feel. The other nights (only four nights total, unfortunately) we pretty much crashed- turns out trans-atlantic travel, long working days, and closing out pubs the night before does that to you. Its funny, the Germans talk about Tucher (which I like) about the same way we talk about Bud. :) Oh, and the beer-related cost of living felt very reasonable- drinking last night was only about 35 euro, including sauerbraten, my own beer, and a round of beer for the whole table.

The SuSE folks were really cool and helpful- the goal of the trip was to talk to people, meet them, and figure out the how do we get the XD team integrated into SuSE so we can start making their GNOME kick ass. I think we got a lot of data for that formal goal, which is great, both of the this is how we should do it and this is how we actually do it variety. We touched on virtually everything at some point- from build system to i18n to docs to planning to security. And so forth.

Informally we met a fair number of people and have a much better feel for who SuSE really is. The KDE guys were very cool- I had a couple really good talks with some of them, especially with Stephan Kulow, who maintains the KDE bugzilla. Theyve stolen and improved some of our reporting code, and I plan to steal back some of the improvements theyve made, some of which are very cool. I think I disagree with some of their specific bug reporting philosophies (probably a post for another time ;) but in general theyve done even more nice stuff than I realized, and I thought theyd done a lot :) Holger Hetterich, their GNOME guy in nurnberg, is pretty cool too- hed already been really helpful over IRC and email, but it was great to meet him in person and hang out a bit. Thanks for the bratwurst, dude. :) I hope we can get him and Stanislav (from suse.cz) to come to GUADEC. Heck, Nurnberg wouldnt be a bad choice for the next GUADEC- wed certainly get a lot of freedesktop love, if nothing else. And it certainly fulfills the lots of places to go and drink requirements, and given that it seems to have a fairly decent convention industry, probably lots of cheap places to stay. (We ended up at the Smile Hotel, for about 40 euros a night- not bad.) Of course, organizers on the ground probably trumps most things, and Im not sure the KDE guys like us enough to volunteer for that :)

Besides wandering around the old town and trying to eat local food bits (bratwursten and other such) we did indulge in a few other things. I got to talk to a couple of the guys about the reunification of Germany, which is something Im personally curious about because of Cuba. That was really neat- talking about how the world just sort of ended at the border, and then it didnt. And because our original hotel was supposed to be 70 km away, we had to rent a car- which gave me a chance on the last morning to now say Ive driven 200 km/h on the autobahn. That was sort of cool, though the car did start wandering a touch at about 190 km/h so I didnt really stay that fast for very long. Still, is sort of cool to be able to say I did it. And god, Im /so/ jealous of Germans- not only does their public transit kick a lot of ass (subway, tram, and bus) their highways are just great. Even in overcast weather, they seemed to be cruising at 85-90 mph and passing faster. Ive never felt safer on the road, actually- I was totally focused and not going to get bored with driving, thats for sure :) I also watched a touch of German TV (no net in hotel :/) and was surprised to see Fresh Prince of Bel Air. In German. Seems like the mild racial humor wouldnt translate well- but Dave pointed out that much of the class stuff probably comes across fine. Oh, and their area code is 911- totally undialable for a repressed American such as myself.

The one thing that definitely sucked is that Im drastically behind on email, including release team, which sucks. Hopefully I can catch up on monday- tomorrow is Krissas birthday so the computer is likely to be off most of the day. :) It was cool to see that Daves proposed release party is catching on, though- hope to see lots of people there.

Oh, my German history lesson for the week:

(german to another german) Your state took over my state 200 years ago. You suck.

(me to germans) Im sorry, I had pretty good European history in school, but pre-Bismarck all they said was lots of little states that fought each other.

(germans) That sounds about right.

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